priti8888
06-26 01:51 PM
What is america losing?
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
Lets take a typical example:
My friend and his wife both have jobs here. They pay around $50K-60 income tax (approx) as a couple.
They have 10 yrs of exp. (approx) or have masters degree. They have a decent bit of 401K. And about 30 years of career left. They also have capital investment in India which is growing at a good pace.
Now if even one is forced to go back I am sure both of them will go back to India or wherever they are from. Makes sense?
So what are they losing by going back to India? Some $$$$. Thats all? No debt. no hassle, just semi retirement early enough.
Now think about 100 couples like this?
Now think about 1000 couples like this?
1000* 60 K = $60 million of taxes and social security lost. Who is going to pay the troops in Iraq? Or the USCIS dumbo? Will he have a job to do if we leave?
And if we leave who is going to pay the medical bills of the baby boomer who needs medicare soon?
Lets say, they replace us with younger workers. what will be their salary? 50K or 75K. lets say 80 K. Chances are they are single. If they are married. Will their wife work immediately. If no, they are collecting taxes from him at a married rate while his spouse has no income. If his wife is educated, how long will she want to live on H4? If she doesnt get H1 will they both go back or stay here endlessly? Chickens (americans).
How much tax will they will pay? If they are on F1 EAD, even better, they dont even pay social security.
Of course we lost $$$$ income, but we are not in so much deep shit as US would be if they lose 1000 couples, just 2000 people.
Now lets say we go to India and undergo semi retirement. Fine, US companies maintain competitive advantage and they gain most. But if we decide to continue to excel, can not such 2000 start a formidably competitive business? Who wins? India or USA? Or will they start multiple businesses?
Its about the numbers. If 1 or 2 dont get GC , it doesnt matter. But if thousands are impacted, most of them smart people, it will hurt someone here or many ones.
What have we really asked for in return? Just a piece of plastic that will let us live and contribute like everyone else here.
They have a problem with that too. Bloody morons.
For how many years this game of making people fools will continue? Message spreads fast. I am already telling my junior relative what to expect in America.
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
sj2273
06-11 07:05 PM
Dear Nitinboston,
I am in 100% agreement with you on the notion that Congress probably doesnt care about people who are not voters/citizens etc. But let me quote you an example from history. I am making an extra effort to be optimistic here, but in saying that, nothing can be done will not lead us anywhere either. If we try, then we can atleast go to bed in peace thinking we tried! Here is the example though:
Blacks in this country did not have any voting rights before 1965. In order to be a registered voter they had be recommended by a white person and go through an exam. they practically had no rights. no status. nothing! I am talking about Alabama in early 50s when blacks were not even allowed to board buses from the front door. The bus driver had the right to pull out a gun if a black person did not give up his/her seat. Rosa parks ignited the Montogomery bus boycott in 1955 December and that lasted for more than a year. The result was that blacks came together and held together persistently till people in higher ranks noticed it. It wasnt easy, black leaders were bombed, harrassed and threatened for doing so. In 1964 the civil rights act came about and 1965 voters right act. And today we have a black president. Unbelievable transition from a time when even the drinking water fountains were seperate for whites and blacks.
This is just an example but what I am really trying to get to is that the Government today is much different than it was several years ago. If they could make the congress hear at that time, why cant we.
It wouldnt be wrong to say that this country still is the most tolerant country in the world. Compare this to Australia or New Zealand or Canada.
People in the government will listen if the cause is right. Its just a matter of making enough noise in a decent manner that people hear.
Thats all I have to say! I hope we can take you in the stride of our optimism. You will make a terrific addition to our optimistic force!
Thank you for reading my post.
I am in 100% agreement with you on the notion that Congress probably doesnt care about people who are not voters/citizens etc. But let me quote you an example from history. I am making an extra effort to be optimistic here, but in saying that, nothing can be done will not lead us anywhere either. If we try, then we can atleast go to bed in peace thinking we tried! Here is the example though:
Blacks in this country did not have any voting rights before 1965. In order to be a registered voter they had be recommended by a white person and go through an exam. they practically had no rights. no status. nothing! I am talking about Alabama in early 50s when blacks were not even allowed to board buses from the front door. The bus driver had the right to pull out a gun if a black person did not give up his/her seat. Rosa parks ignited the Montogomery bus boycott in 1955 December and that lasted for more than a year. The result was that blacks came together and held together persistently till people in higher ranks noticed it. It wasnt easy, black leaders were bombed, harrassed and threatened for doing so. In 1964 the civil rights act came about and 1965 voters right act. And today we have a black president. Unbelievable transition from a time when even the drinking water fountains were seperate for whites and blacks.
This is just an example but what I am really trying to get to is that the Government today is much different than it was several years ago. If they could make the congress hear at that time, why cant we.
It wouldnt be wrong to say that this country still is the most tolerant country in the world. Compare this to Australia or New Zealand or Canada.
People in the government will listen if the cause is right. Its just a matter of making enough noise in a decent manner that people hear.
Thats all I have to say! I hope we can take you in the stride of our optimism. You will make a terrific addition to our optimistic force!
Thank you for reading my post.
vjkypally
07-20 09:41 AM
Also chatwal organized some $ 5 million for her campaign. Go Obama!!!!!!!:)
missourian
06-01 05:04 PM
My PD EB3 01/15/2005
Applied I140 PP 05/18/2007
Approved I140 05/23/2007
Man I am screwed
Applied I140 PP 05/18/2007
Approved I140 05/23/2007
Man I am screwed
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gc_dream07
03-04 01:26 PM
I had soft LUDS 2 weeks ago. I do not know if it means anything.
jambapamba
07-06 02:07 PM
Are they really accepting applications? What do you mean by accpeting!? They are just taking the applications but are not opening it. There is already a queue for opening those....and currently they are opening the applications recieved in Jun20th and around(I am just basing on the 485 applicants submitted around that timeframe and have not recieved a receipt notice yet). They will get to the ones as time goes by.....:rolleyes:
I doubt it, uscis used up 60k visas in one month just to make sure we dont get any ead, why in the world after doing all this nonsense would they accept our applications.
I doubt it, uscis used up 60k visas in one month just to make sure we dont get any ead, why in the world after doing all this nonsense would they accept our applications.
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makemygc
07-06 02:00 PM
why not our motherland INDIA
coz we need some place to go for vacation ;)
coz we need some place to go for vacation ;)
gcformeornot
03-19 06:42 AM
got FHA loan on EAD..... My EAD was is expiring in July.... So they were skeptical... I showed them FHA guideline.... showed old EAD and all previous 797s.... they approved 30 Fixed FHA.....
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pappu
06-10 01:02 PM
Just to summarize what's going to happen with VB in final Quarter.
Two words: Nothing Positive
CIS and DOS officials are meeting every week after July 07 fiasco. They have a better handle on the visa number utilization than they ever had in the past years. As a result they have max utilization of visa numbers and don't be surprised if DOS decides to move EB2 India and China a month or two back. Neither India EB2 nor China EB2 is going to move past Oct 2004 before Oct 08 bulletin.
That is true and IV core member Nixtor had given details about this visa movement more than a month ago in the all state chapter conference call. This call was strictly for state chapter members of all states. IV core has been meeting DOS and USCIS regularly to find solution to the problems our members have been facing.
Pls take part in the call campaign and contribute funds to be able to find relief.
Two words: Nothing Positive
CIS and DOS officials are meeting every week after July 07 fiasco. They have a better handle on the visa number utilization than they ever had in the past years. As a result they have max utilization of visa numbers and don't be surprised if DOS decides to move EB2 India and China a month or two back. Neither India EB2 nor China EB2 is going to move past Oct 2004 before Oct 08 bulletin.
That is true and IV core member Nixtor had given details about this visa movement more than a month ago in the all state chapter conference call. This call was strictly for state chapter members of all states. IV core has been meeting DOS and USCIS regularly to find solution to the problems our members have been facing.
Pls take part in the call campaign and contribute funds to be able to find relief.
sfcwtu
10-05 08:49 AM
I am pessimistic about it too. It won't attract congress's attention until news breaking out that, patients are dying due to lack of nurses.
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vinvin24
05-03 02:09 PM
If there is a template for fax and regular mail, we can get more people involved in this campaign. Thank you for your efforts.
asharda
08-10 04:11 PM
Did you file concurrent?
I140 was approved January 06.
I140 was approved January 06.
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ashutrip
06-18 12:57 PM
I emailed them not as me but as my employer( point of contact mentioned in the labor petition) and it works they send me a copy of the labor approval to my house along with a copy to my employer and one to my attroney. It really works.
what is your pd?
what is your pd?
RN_Usa
07-31 11:39 AM
i m Nurse on h4 and waiting to finish my Nclex exam fast. Lack of nclex certificate make us loss the chance for applying for imigration petition..
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qualified_trash
08-08 03:40 PM
OK, I edited the text to make it clearer that 20-25 years applies only to some family based immigrants. Let me know if it reads OK (grammar etc.) after the edits.
Pankaj
As this is your article, you have all the freedom to write on what impacts you. However, keep in mind that FB immigration is still a sore spot with the American public as the perception is that Immigrants bring their parents here to collect on SS and Medicare (true in some cases I guess). If it were left up to me, I would leave FB Immigration out of the writeup.......
Just my 2 cents.
Grammar etc looks fine to me :-))
Pankaj
As this is your article, you have all the freedom to write on what impacts you. However, keep in mind that FB immigration is still a sore spot with the American public as the perception is that Immigrants bring their parents here to collect on SS and Medicare (true in some cases I guess). If it were left up to me, I would leave FB Immigration out of the writeup.......
Just my 2 cents.
Grammar etc looks fine to me :-))
TeddyKoochu
12-11 11:14 AM
There are so many who missed the July 07...
we should try to seek temporary relief..allowing to file for 485 even without PD veing current.
CIR will happen when it has to happen..maybe after the health bill ...but IV not doing anything else while waiting for it is sad....
Second that! I hope something happens, is there any information as to when the pre-filing for I485 will be implemented.
we should try to seek temporary relief..allowing to file for 485 even without PD veing current.
CIR will happen when it has to happen..maybe after the health bill ...but IV not doing anything else while waiting for it is sad....
Second that! I hope something happens, is there any information as to when the pre-filing for I485 will be implemented.
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Amma
09-09 12:22 AM
Dear friends,
Contributed $ 300 today via google .
Keep going IV.
Amma
Contributed $ 300 today via google .
Keep going IV.
Amma
vjkypally
07-20 09:41 AM
Also chatwal organized some $ 5 million for her campaign. Go Obama!!!!!!!:)
gc_peshwa
04-30 02:04 PM
I am done calling all listed republicans :) I thought they are the ones who mattered most as Dems are/will jump into the bandwagon sooner or later.
I am not sure if the senators will ever receive our heartfelt pleas and messages.I pray they do...
I felt like a lobbyist while calling their offices...only that I was lobbying with their staff to pass on the message.. :D
Gist: Some of the staff members (I hope not Senators) THOUGHT CIR==AMNESTY for illegals and told me point blank Senator doesnt support CIR for the same reason. I explained to them CIR is not only about illegals and amnesty and that legal immigrants will be helped a lot. These GC applicants would become their voters in near future.
Here's the status for today
Graham - spoke to staff No position on bill yet
Gregg- spoke to staff member no position sounded like she is faking noting down details
Lugar - spoke to staff promised that Senator is very supportive of CIR left my details
Enzi- spoke to staff member does not support CIR left my details
Ensign-no position on it yet
Hatch-against amnesty left details
John Kyl-supports legal immigration left details
Cornyn-voicemail
McConnell-no position yet left details with his staff
Will run through rest of the list next week.
Thanks to IV. You guys are doing a great job!
I am not sure if the senators will ever receive our heartfelt pleas and messages.I pray they do...
I felt like a lobbyist while calling their offices...only that I was lobbying with their staff to pass on the message.. :D
Gist: Some of the staff members (I hope not Senators) THOUGHT CIR==AMNESTY for illegals and told me point blank Senator doesnt support CIR for the same reason. I explained to them CIR is not only about illegals and amnesty and that legal immigrants will be helped a lot. These GC applicants would become their voters in near future.
Here's the status for today
Graham - spoke to staff No position on bill yet
Gregg- spoke to staff member no position sounded like she is faking noting down details
Lugar - spoke to staff promised that Senator is very supportive of CIR left my details
Enzi- spoke to staff member does not support CIR left my details
Ensign-no position on it yet
Hatch-against amnesty left details
John Kyl-supports legal immigration left details
Cornyn-voicemail
McConnell-no position yet left details with his staff
Will run through rest of the list next week.
Thanks to IV. You guys are doing a great job!
bpratap
05-28 06:36 PM
Congratulations!
I never had a problem with my immigration status in regards to getting a home loan. In fact, I got approval from 3 banks and I chose the one with lowest interest.
U got lucky as they didnt ask the Immigration status.
For me also they didnt ask me until they are about to approve the loan.
Gave me a scare, but finally all worked out
I never had a problem with my immigration status in regards to getting a home loan. In fact, I got approval from 3 banks and I chose the one with lowest interest.
U got lucky as they didnt ask the Immigration status.
For me also they didnt ask me until they are about to approve the loan.
Gave me a scare, but finally all worked out
sujijag
07-14 08:17 PM
Good Initiative. High Five :)
Here is my confirmation
Immigration Voice $5.00 07/18/2008 7YBXC-MCJPD
Here is my confirmation
Immigration Voice $5.00 07/18/2008 7YBXC-MCJPD
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