Munna Bhai
12-17 12:25 PM
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
You pointed out correctly..the reason everyone of us are depressed is "I don't wanna feel being a loser" as pointed by Bestia and now GC has become some-sort of personnal goal....
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
You pointed out correctly..the reason everyone of us are depressed is "I don't wanna feel being a loser" as pointed by Bestia and now GC has become some-sort of personnal goal....
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tonyHK12
02-10 10:31 AM
Here is the transcript
00:31:28 As president trump who would be the first person you would say you're fired to?
00:31:34 >> They want me to say, look, i have had -- >> they want you to say if -- >> if you're president -- >> who's the number one bad guy right now you would fire in america?
00:31:48 >> Well, can I be honest?
00:31:50 I don't want to say -- there's so many of them.
00:31:51 There really are.
00:31:53 There are so many of them.
00:31:54 You look at the department of education.
00:31:55 It goes for blocks and blocks and blocks.
00:31:59 Education should really be -- we have to -- like a little bit of supervision.
00:32:03 >> You wouldn't argue -- >> it should be a local thing.
00:32:07 >> I was going to mention education to you because the last word with the chinese, isn't it that they are educating their people better now than america is doing and that's why they're also jumping ahead?
00:32:19 Isn't that true?
00:32:20 >> You know where they're educating a lot of their people?
00:32:23 At our schools.
00:32:24 It's the most amazing thing.
00:32:25 They come over, they learn, they go to harvard, they go to wharton, they go to yale, they go to the best schools, then we force them to leave.
00:32:30 >> Okay.
00:32:31 >> No, no, we force them to leave.
00:32:34 >> When we come back, I'll ask you as a man who wins and knows how to pick a winner, which is where I come in, how are we going to win?
looks like there is some hope for us in 2013 if the elections go well :) This is all in good humor though , no one expects DT to upset the apple cart.
00:31:28 As president trump who would be the first person you would say you're fired to?
00:31:34 >> They want me to say, look, i have had -- >> they want you to say if -- >> if you're president -- >> who's the number one bad guy right now you would fire in america?
00:31:48 >> Well, can I be honest?
00:31:50 I don't want to say -- there's so many of them.
00:31:51 There really are.
00:31:53 There are so many of them.
00:31:54 You look at the department of education.
00:31:55 It goes for blocks and blocks and blocks.
00:31:59 Education should really be -- we have to -- like a little bit of supervision.
00:32:03 >> You wouldn't argue -- >> it should be a local thing.
00:32:07 >> I was going to mention education to you because the last word with the chinese, isn't it that they are educating their people better now than america is doing and that's why they're also jumping ahead?
00:32:19 Isn't that true?
00:32:20 >> You know where they're educating a lot of their people?
00:32:23 At our schools.
00:32:24 It's the most amazing thing.
00:32:25 They come over, they learn, they go to harvard, they go to wharton, they go to yale, they go to the best schools, then we force them to leave.
00:32:30 >> Okay.
00:32:31 >> No, no, we force them to leave.
00:32:34 >> When we come back, I'll ask you as a man who wins and knows how to pick a winner, which is where I come in, how are we going to win?
looks like there is some hope for us in 2013 if the elections go well :) This is all in good humor though , no one expects DT to upset the apple cart.
needhelp!
11-21 11:32 AM
May God give you and your family the strength to go through this.
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jasmin45
07-11 08:26 PM
Excellent Dude! .. that is what we need to do... youtube/google all the videos related to this campaign.... Few areas of improvements to be noted synchronization between visuals and the vocals... and it also ended abruptly..
If possible, please try to get this straight and youtube it again...
If possible, please try to get this straight and youtube it again...
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tonyHK12
02-01 07:36 PM
The link to the contribution page in pappu's post is not working. I want to contribute for the event. Is there any special page through which donations for this event are collected? Or can I just make one time contribution from the home page?
Thank you! All one time contributions after Feb 01 2011 will be for this event.
There are other ways to get to the contribution page
There is a link in my Signature
The green Donate button at the top of this page
The home page, where the contributions tab is on the right hand panel
Thank you! All one time contributions after Feb 01 2011 will be for this event.
There are other ways to get to the contribution page
There is a link in my Signature
The green Donate button at the top of this page
The home page, where the contributions tab is on the right hand panel
mrane1
12-16 03:30 AM
you will not get anything before it's time comes and if it is beyond your destiny/luck
I was never a fatalist but the GC process made me one... to a certain extent... Came to US in 96 as a student... First PD 1999... layoff in 2001... 2nd PD 2002... company shut down... 3rd PD 2003... PD cleared 7 days after 2005 retro! That was the worst period and I was so frustrated at the time!June 1st 07 filer... Was waiting for FP, EAD forever. Finally on sept 13th I had my FP and sept 17th my GC... just like that... no LUD, EAD, AP nothing... directly GC in the mail... I guess it was just my time! Looking back I think I am glad I concentrated on the positives that were going on in my life... thats pretty much the only thing one can do to aviod frustration... IV is a great organization and hopefully their efforts will bring fruits! Meanwhile good luck to u!
I was never a fatalist but the GC process made me one... to a certain extent... Came to US in 96 as a student... First PD 1999... layoff in 2001... 2nd PD 2002... company shut down... 3rd PD 2003... PD cleared 7 days after 2005 retro! That was the worst period and I was so frustrated at the time!June 1st 07 filer... Was waiting for FP, EAD forever. Finally on sept 13th I had my FP and sept 17th my GC... just like that... no LUD, EAD, AP nothing... directly GC in the mail... I guess it was just my time! Looking back I think I am glad I concentrated on the positives that were going on in my life... thats pretty much the only thing one can do to aviod frustration... IV is a great organization and hopefully their efforts will bring fruits! Meanwhile good luck to u!
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pooja_34
08-31 01:29 PM
How am I being a racist? I'm just pointing out the fact that North and South Indians belong to different races and USCIS should stop clubbing them together.
Stop being a racist. Even if it was intended to be a joke...its a sick one for sure.
Stop being a racist. Even if it was intended to be a joke...its a sick one for sure.
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Shaikhtabrez
07-12 01:01 PM
New Traps for Aliens Filing for a Green Card (http://www.rreeves.com/articles/immigration_en_10575.php)
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ashshah
12-16 03:55 PM
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
Another recommendation is if possible do a landmark forum course. Its a 3 day course but definitely worth doing especially it may help to handle depression of any kind. Its based on a technology and not everyone gets the same benefits. But it does provide you good insights and everyone gets benefited in some way or the other.
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
Another recommendation is if possible do a landmark forum course. Its a 3 day course but definitely worth doing especially it may help to handle depression of any kind. Its based on a technology and not everyone gets the same benefits. But it does provide you good insights and everyone gets benefited in some way or the other.
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trueguy
09-19 07:46 PM
I agree with above analysis except 5% assumption is not good assumption. It might be 2% or less
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Sri_1975
08-31 01:49 PM
No Recipts yet..:)
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geevikram
07-20 09:40 PM
Problem was ours (EB2 & EB3) and we fought together until EB2&EB3 dates were retrogressed.Now the problem is only for EB3s so EB3s only have to come forward and work for ourselves. Thank you Sir...
No, you are twisting what I said. My point is, if you are not willing to help yourself, why do you expect people who are going to be current in a year or so to chip in? You can start helping yourself by becoming a regular donor to IV. That's $25 a month. Imagine 11,000 odd EB people becoming regular donors. Maybe, IV can then run a regular ad in major news network, explaining our plight.
What I am saying is we(EB2&3) will fight together and you are saying that It's your problem and you(EB3) have to work for yourself.So do we have to start a new community called eb3immigrationvoice?
I never said EB3 will have to fight it alone. All I said is, 90% of EB3 folks stuck in the rot of backlog want someone else to take the lead and do it.
Again, please do not twist what I said. I rest my case.
No, you are twisting what I said. My point is, if you are not willing to help yourself, why do you expect people who are going to be current in a year or so to chip in? You can start helping yourself by becoming a regular donor to IV. That's $25 a month. Imagine 11,000 odd EB people becoming regular donors. Maybe, IV can then run a regular ad in major news network, explaining our plight.
What I am saying is we(EB2&3) will fight together and you are saying that It's your problem and you(EB3) have to work for yourself.So do we have to start a new community called eb3immigrationvoice?
I never said EB3 will have to fight it alone. All I said is, 90% of EB3 folks stuck in the rot of backlog want someone else to take the lead and do it.
Again, please do not twist what I said. I rest my case.
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simple1
05-01 01:31 PM
Thanks vbkris77. That is what I am saying.
There is no references in INA showing EB dependents must be counted in EB quota. period.
INA doesn't talk about visa allocation for spouse and children in employment pref. So we need to atleast challenge CIS interpretation on this.
There is no references in INA showing EB dependents must be counted in EB quota. period.
INA doesn't talk about visa allocation for spouse and children in employment pref. So we need to atleast challenge CIS interpretation on this.
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desi3933
06-26 03:06 PM
"Until and after 1 year" - how does it save me - the word "until"
please explain for me - Thanks Much ?
Sounds like there is a way out.
Could you please post whole sentence? Thanks.
Not a legal advice.
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please explain for me - Thanks Much ?
Sounds like there is a way out.
Could you please post whole sentence? Thanks.
Not a legal advice.
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khukubindu
05-05 05:13 PM
Hello,
I don't know is it the right place to post this. What will be the EB-3 ROW in the coming June Visa Bulletin. I have asked my attorney and got the following response:
Q: I am in the Rest of the world chargeability area. My category is EB-3. My priority date is July 27, 2006. Do you think that my priority date will be current in the coming June 2008 visa bulletin. The May 2008 bulletin's cutoff date in my category and chargebility is March 1, 2006.
A: Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing if your priority date will be become current next month. Sometimes the priority dates stay the same for many months, or become unavailable completely like last summer. At times, the dates may jump many months or even years. We can not speculate when your date will become current, as it is truly unpredictable
Is there any gurus who can give me an idea ?
I don't know is it the right place to post this. What will be the EB-3 ROW in the coming June Visa Bulletin. I have asked my attorney and got the following response:
Q: I am in the Rest of the world chargeability area. My category is EB-3. My priority date is July 27, 2006. Do you think that my priority date will be current in the coming June 2008 visa bulletin. The May 2008 bulletin's cutoff date in my category and chargebility is March 1, 2006.
A: Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing if your priority date will be become current next month. Sometimes the priority dates stay the same for many months, or become unavailable completely like last summer. At times, the dates may jump many months or even years. We can not speculate when your date will become current, as it is truly unpredictable
Is there any gurus who can give me an idea ?
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krishna_brc
01-29 05:32 PM
Hi
I came to us on H4 in 2007 and the got my H1B in 2008. I am not getting a job on H1 yet so i want to know that till when the H1B be valid as I am not genarating any salery and my consultant is not running my pay roll ?
And if the H1 goes dorment then what can be done next?
H1 would be valid/active the moment you accept employment with H1-B sponsoring employer.
Since you haven't started working and assuming you haven't accepted the offer from the
H1 sponsoring employer, YOU should be fine.
Please take advise from your company attorney.
I came to us on H4 in 2007 and the got my H1B in 2008. I am not getting a job on H1 yet so i want to know that till when the H1B be valid as I am not genarating any salery and my consultant is not running my pay roll ?
And if the H1 goes dorment then what can be done next?
H1 would be valid/active the moment you accept employment with H1-B sponsoring employer.
Since you haven't started working and assuming you haven't accepted the offer from the
H1 sponsoring employer, YOU should be fine.
Please take advise from your company attorney.
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paragpujara
01-06 11:55 AM
I selected following options for infopass appointment.
You need Service on a case that has already been filed -->Case Services follow-up appointment - If it has been over 45 days since you contacted NCSC and have not received a response to your inquiry. You must bring the Service Request ID Number related to your inquiry to the appointment.
And I carried Receipts for 485,765 and 131 for myself and my wife (of course photo ID).
Hope this helps. Good Luck.
Congrats Parag. You got it finally. Am still waiting.
Do you know which option you selected when you had scheduled the infopass? Also, what documents did you carry at the infopass?
Thanks for the update again.
You need Service on a case that has already been filed -->Case Services follow-up appointment - If it has been over 45 days since you contacted NCSC and have not received a response to your inquiry. You must bring the Service Request ID Number related to your inquiry to the appointment.
And I carried Receipts for 485,765 and 131 for myself and my wife (of course photo ID).
Hope this helps. Good Luck.
Congrats Parag. You got it finally. Am still waiting.
Do you know which option you selected when you had scheduled the infopass? Also, what documents did you carry at the infopass?
Thanks for the update again.
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h1techSlave
05-01 09:43 AM
One of my friends was a plaintiff in the lawsuit that you mention. As you mention, USCIS quickly approved all cases. So didn't the plaintiffs won the case?
I hope our potential lawsuit will have a similar effect. We file a lawsuit saying we are discriminated based on country of birth. USCIS opposes the lawsuit, but quickly approves all our 485s. We both win in that situation.
I would be happy if EB2 India gets upto Dec04. Forget EB3. Also any lawsuit is only sustainable only if its properly funded, well represented and there is wide public support if you expect the class action status. Mr Rajiv Khanna filed a lawsuit for 485 backlogs and its class action status was denied by the judge which I personally think was a biased judge and later USCIS quickly approved 485s of plaintiffs making lawsuit moot.
I hope our potential lawsuit will have a similar effect. We file a lawsuit saying we are discriminated based on country of birth. USCIS opposes the lawsuit, but quickly approves all our 485s. We both win in that situation.
I would be happy if EB2 India gets upto Dec04. Forget EB3. Also any lawsuit is only sustainable only if its properly funded, well represented and there is wide public support if you expect the class action status. Mr Rajiv Khanna filed a lawsuit for 485 backlogs and its class action status was denied by the judge which I personally think was a biased judge and later USCIS quickly approved 485s of plaintiffs making lawsuit moot.
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ragz4u
04-30 11:37 AM
And has a lot of backing from the hi-tech industry.
Also, this bill (as per my understanding) does not have to do anything with the illegal aliens and so should not rankle anyone. Also since Cornyn is the author, other conservatives (hopefully) will not have many issues with it and not many will argue about a bill that has to do with American Competitiveness.
Also, this bill (as per my understanding) does not have to do anything with the illegal aliens and so should not rankle anyone. Also since Cornyn is the author, other conservatives (hopefully) will not have many issues with it and not many will argue about a bill that has to do with American Competitiveness.
ink_123
08-30 06:37 PM
Application Sent on June 30th. Recd in NSC on July 2nd. I had applied only 485 at that time. Sent the other forms later with the Fedex receipt no. Waiting for EAD/AP receipt now!!
hiUS
09-19 10:04 AM
I had info pass appointment today in Newark they asked my
Info pass appointment letter
I-485 approval letter
Passports
I told them it�s almost one a month, I didn�t get my card yet. Then they gave me a token number and when my turn came. I met the USCIS officer he wasn�t much help at all. he just gave me 551 stamp for 1yr and when I asked him about biometric he said last year I took in Oct-07 its good till next month and I don�t need it.
I was expecting 551 stamp look like h1 visa stamp, but it�s just an ordinary stamp.
After coming home I called USCIS asked them about the card. She told me that card was sent out for production today and I should get it within 1 week to 30 days. Because it was sent out today that�s the reason I didn�t get the email update
Approved on 8-12-08
As I discussed earlier in this thread, Mine are the same dates as yours and two minutes ago I got the email of Card Production Ordered. It's been more than a month I got the Approval Notice. It seems atlast they uploaded my and my wife's Biometrics from CSC.
I think my call to IO paid off. After trying couple of times I got in touch with a decent IO for 3rd time. She said that Biometrics are missing and she will upload them from CSC. Three days after the call I got this message.
8/12/08 - Approval Notice sent email
8/18/08 - Approval Notice sent mail (post)
Info pass appointment letter
I-485 approval letter
Passports
I told them it�s almost one a month, I didn�t get my card yet. Then they gave me a token number and when my turn came. I met the USCIS officer he wasn�t much help at all. he just gave me 551 stamp for 1yr and when I asked him about biometric he said last year I took in Oct-07 its good till next month and I don�t need it.
I was expecting 551 stamp look like h1 visa stamp, but it�s just an ordinary stamp.
After coming home I called USCIS asked them about the card. She told me that card was sent out for production today and I should get it within 1 week to 30 days. Because it was sent out today that�s the reason I didn�t get the email update
Approved on 8-12-08
As I discussed earlier in this thread, Mine are the same dates as yours and two minutes ago I got the email of Card Production Ordered. It's been more than a month I got the Approval Notice. It seems atlast they uploaded my and my wife's Biometrics from CSC.
I think my call to IO paid off. After trying couple of times I got in touch with a decent IO for 3rd time. She said that Biometrics are missing and she will upload them from CSC. Three days after the call I got this message.
8/12/08 - Approval Notice sent email
8/18/08 - Approval Notice sent mail (post)
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